Henny's guide to online poker.....do's and don'ts from a breakeven player - Page 2

Ship · Jul 10th, 2009, 07:37 PM

noose me for the serious reply afterwords

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sonatine · Jul 10th, 2009, 08:09 PM

ftr henny, wave theory is pretty old school, stu unger talked about how he would play rushes and such, plus its my opinion that prime numbers appear in bursts/clusters. so please dont think im trying to debunk what youre saying. i just think that you need to seriously eat some shrooms and watch Poker Bustouts about 10 times in a row before you succumb to "going semi-pro" syndrome.

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Poker Bustouts

henny_bogan · Jul 10th, 2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sonatine

ftr henny, wave theory is pretty old school, stu unger talked about how he would play rushes and such, plus its my opinion that prime numbers appear in bursts/clusters. so please dont think im trying to debunk what youre saying. i just think that you need to seriously eat some shrooms and watch Poker Bustouts about 10 times in a row before you succumb to "going semi-pro" syndrome.

I hear ya loud and clear. I don't really care about the money or status but let me win one time. Let me beat t5he best.

Chinabrainiac · Jul 10th, 2009, 11:18 PM

1. find big pot tables and high percentage players on the flop

2. type every player into tableratings. If at least 2 suck then play and try to isolate the lone terrible player if there is only one when you have good holdings

3. cash out

4. end thread

5. ship to the hall

USC · Jul 11th, 2009, 09:58 AM

its my belief that most of these winning players are using drugs to enhance their concentration. That's fine... I will level the playing field and join them.

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The biggest winners I know are using various substances. Pretty huge edge if managed correctly.

henny_bogan · Jul 11th, 2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris Becker

Henny, I have played with you a bit at 1/2 on ftp.

I have you marked as a tagfish

Here is GENERAL advice I would give to tagfish

PREFLOP

Raise more cutoffs and buttons, isolate limpers with decent stacks liberally.

Threebet more hands, with things other than the nuts sometimes. Threebet in position with things like Axs or Kxs and small pairs and sometimes SC. If a regular raises and a regular flats, threebet liberally. When a fish limps and a reg raises to 9, threebet liberally

Flat call with big aces to keep smaller ones in including AK vs tight players. slowplay flatcall AA and KK sometimes with the intentions of playing it fast, you might even get squeezed.

Don't flat call regulars OOP to often, and don't 3bet trash oop too often. I garuntee you are a big loser out of the blinds when you call a raise, even multiway, because you lack postflop aggression.

POSTFLOP

As soon as a flop comes out evaluate your hand strength and how many streets of value it holds. Realize there are 4 "streets" before it gets in, meaning one raise postflop and the money gets in. Realize that raise can go in on any street.

examples

JJ on a J76= 4
A5 on a A72 = 1-2
KQ on a Q83 = 3
55 on a 339 = 0-1
AJ on a 977 = 0

Continuation bet most heads up pots, do so with middle pair, don't check behind and play guess and check like you're used to.

Don't be afraid to check fold terrible boards

When you call OOP and miss completely give up 33%, check-raise 33%, and fold 33%.

Checkraise flops more damnit, continuaton bets are normally false. Including gutsots bottom pairs over cards etc

Float in position

Turn continuation with changing boards like 5s 8s 9 turn Ks

Give up turn on dry board continuations with no improvements

Im getting tired of writing and playing so ill add only a couple more things

realize nits will be nits and fold to them, ISOLATE FISH thats where the money comes from, not the regs

Once you develop stronger hand reading skills, bluff raise rivers when you think people are valueing thin.

The object is to decieve in poker, betting top pair everytime you flop it isnt decieving

set up plans for hands

TABLE SELECT

GL

Just got to say again how good this post of yours is. Got anymore quicl words?

Boris Becker · Jul 12th, 2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by henny_bogan

Just got to say again how good this post of yours is. Got anymore quicl words?

You really just need to transform yourself into a fearless aggressive player. Passive players are easy to play. I don't mean firing three barrels at every pot. I mean learning to read hand strength based on observasions you make off of player tendencies, and then using that information to steal pots and get value out of your better hands. Be aware of what you are showing down. Use propper bet sizing, execute cheap bluffs in cheap pots. If he checks to you when the fourth card of the same suit comes on the river, stab 2/5 pot after, as that's more often than not a sufficient amount, etc.

Coaches run from 200hr to 800hr and would help your game more than you could ever pay them. Say they find one leak where you bet 1bb more than you have to and you make that bet 30 times a session. That is 60 dollars a session, and that is with only a minor minor leak. You prob have more than a few minor leaks. If you can afford, the right coach can take your game from a breakeven 200nl player to a winning 400nl player in one session.

A much cheaper (and watered down) version of coaches is training sites, DeucesCracked.com is the best out there, ESPECIALLY for hu nl players and shorthanded. You can even get a CardRunners membership with FTP points these days. That is by far the most valuable item in the FTP store.

GL henny

pjf1969 · Jul 12th, 2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris Becker

You really just need to transform yourself into a fearless aggressive player...GL henny

I would say intelligent aggression is a more apt term. As a LHE player primarily on Stars I see players who have absolutley no intuition as when to take the initiative in a hand. The ability to induce these players is a huge source of profit in LHE games up through 10/20.

To the OP I thought your thread started out strongly. The "Meta" trends that flow through a game are a delicate dance. Its a dance with each player at the table and is the heart and sole of poker. Its what makes poker so much fun. Your comments jumped off the rails a bit (IMO) when you started in with your list, (ex-the jibber about using the auto raise buttons)

15yearlosingstreak · Jul 13th, 2009, 03:23 PM

8 mgs of adderral, or a small rock once an hour is what most kids do these days.

delaware · Jul 14th, 2009, 11:31 AM

THE ANSWER IS IN FRONT OF YOU IF YOUR SEEING OVER 17 PERCENT OF THE FLOPS AFTER 50 HANDS YOUR ONE OF TWO THINGS.IF OVER YOUR HAVEING A GREAT DAY IF YOUR NOT HAVEING A GREAT DAY AND YOUR OVER. YOUR JUST PLAYING BADLY.PRETTY SIMPLE

SetOfKs · Jul 14th, 2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by delaware

THE ANSWER IS IN FRONT OF YOU IF YOUR SEEING OVER 17 PERCENT OF THE FLOPS AFTER 50 HANDS YOUR ONE OF TWO THINGS.IF OVER YOUR HAVEING A GREAT DAY IF YOUR NOT HAVEING A GREAT DAY AND YOUR OVER. YOUR JUST PLAYING BADLY.PRETTY SIMPLE

Delaware system ftw

delaware · Jul 14th, 2009, 01:28 PM

AS I HAVE SAID. THE ANSWER IS IN FRONT OF YOU.ATER 50 HANDS DELT AND YOUR OVER 17 PERCENT OF FLOPS SEEN THERES ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPING. ONE YOUR HAVEING A GOOD DAY. OR TWO YOUR PLAYING BADLY.PRETTY SIMPLE

Muck Ficon · Jul 14th, 2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by delaware

AS I HAVE SAID. THE ANSWER IS IN FRONT OF YOU.ATER 50 HANDS DELT AND YOUR OVER 17 PERCENT OF FLOPS SEEN THERES ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPING. ONE YOUR HAVEING A GOOD DAY. OR TWO YOUR PLAYING BADLY.PRETTY SIMPLE

If your going to post here could you turn off caps lock. Also, could you please make an attempt at spelling shit correctly. I can't even read your posts. It's like fucking hieroglyphics.

neverstop · Jul 14th, 2009, 01:50 PM

DELAWARE SPELLS THINGS INCORRECTLY ON PURPOSE

HE THINKS IT MAKES HIM LOOK ENDEARING OR SOME STUPID SHIT LIKE THAT

SetOfKs · Jul 19th, 2009, 08:41 PM

How do I stop myself from tilted. Been playing for 8 years and still tilt regularly. Any drugs to help this? Never tried Xanax but would that work?

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xanax is used after uv tilted off ur roll and need to sleep mix with ambien or unisom ftw

Avon Barksdale · Jul 19th, 2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SetOfKs

How do I stop myself from tilted. Been playing for 8 years and still tilt regularly. Any drugs to help this? Never tried Xanax but would that work?

Xanax would be no bueno. Herb doesn't work?

SetOfKs · Jul 19th, 2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Avon Barksdale

Xanax would be no bueno. Herb doesn't work?

Hmm doess this work? Never been a huge pot smoker because too much of any type of smoke fucks up my teeth, but if pot will stop me from tilting I may have to start smoking.

USC · Jul 19th, 2009, 10:40 PM

the best way not to tilt is to only play when you actually feel like playing. when you feel like playing, you are concentrated and motivated to play and your play will be far superior to just "playing to play" and you won't tilt. whenever i tilt, it's because i'm playing just to play for the sake of putting in hands and it's not good. this is obviously easier said than done. gl chimp.

HelloThere · Jul 19th, 2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SetOfKs

How do I stop myself from tilted. Been playing for 8 years and still tilt regularly. Any drugs to help this? Never tried Xanax but would that work?

Xanax is a horrible horrible drug, you will fall asleep during the 2nd hour.

SetOfKs · Jul 19th, 2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by USC

the best way not to tilt is to only play when you actually feel like playing. when you feel like playing, you are concentrated and motivated to play and your play will be far superior to just "playing to play" and you won't tilt. whenever i tilt, it's because i'm playing just to play for the sake of putting in hands and it's not good. this is obviously easier said than done. gl chimp.

Makes sense. I always seem to do best when I am actually excited to play.

Jul 10th, 2009, 11:18 PM	#24 (permalink)
Chinabrainiac Member #: 380 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hackensack Posts: 819	Re: Henny's guide to online poker.....do's and don'ts from a breakeven player 1. find big pot tables and high percentage players on the flop 2. type every player into tableratings. If at least 2 suck then play and try to isolate the lone terrible player if there is only one when you have good holdings 3. cash out 4. end thread 5. ship to the hall

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15yearlosingstreak Banned Member #: 71 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 339	Re: Henny's guide to online poker.....do's and don'ts from a breakeven player 8 mgs of adderral, or a small rock once an hour is what most kids do these days.

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delaware Comrade Member #: 16 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: DELAWARE Posts: 121	Re: Henny's guide to online poker.....do's and don'ts from a breakeven player THE ANSWER IS IN FRONT OF YOU IF YOUR SEEING OVER 17 PERCENT OF THE FLOPS AFTER 50 HANDS YOUR ONE OF TWO THINGS.IF OVER YOUR HAVEING A GREAT DAY IF YOUR NOT HAVEING A GREAT DAY AND YOUR OVER. YOUR JUST PLAYING BADLY.PRETTY SIMPLE

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delaware Comrade Member #: 16 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: DELAWARE Posts: 121	Re: Henny's guide to online poker.....do's and don'ts from a breakeven player AS I HAVE SAID. THE ANSWER IS IN FRONT OF YOU.ATER 50 HANDS DELT AND YOUR OVER 17 PERCENT OF FLOPS SEEN THERES ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPING. ONE YOUR HAVEING A GOOD DAY. OR TWO YOUR PLAYING BADLY.PRETTY SIMPLE

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neverstop Administrator Member #: 23 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 7,371	Re: Henny's guide to online poker.....do's and don'ts from a breakeven player DELAWARE SPELLS THINGS INCORRECTLY ON PURPOSE HE THINKS IT MAKES HIM LOOK ENDEARING OR SOME STUPID SHIT LIKE THAT __________________ neverstop's blog \| @BORISPOKER on Twitter

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USC Making Threads Nobody Understands Member #: 27 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: IMing via PM Posts: 6,214	Re: Henny's guide to online poker.....do's and don'ts from a breakeven player the best way not to tilt is to only play when you actually feel like playing. when you feel like playing, you are concentrated and motivated to play and your play will be far superior to just "playing to play" and you won't tilt. whenever i tilt, it's because i'm playing just to play for the sake of putting in hands and it's not good. this is obviously easier said than done. gl chimp. __________________ <gifeveryonehates.gif> http://www.nflbettingblog.com/ NAWC

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